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Scott Townsend
11-04-2005, 01:34 AM
We have a new domain name that I want to be identical to an existing domain
name.

Without Active Directory, you just use the same Zone File. With an AD
Integrated zone how so you do that?

Is there a way to do an initial copy of it if I can't keep them in sync?

Thanks,
Scott<-

Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
11-04-2005, 04:26 AM
Scott Townsend <scott-i@.-N0-SPAMplease.enm.com> wrote:
> We have a new domain name that I want to be identical to an existing
> domain name.
Huh? Please clarify.

> Without Active Directory, you just use the same Zone File. With an AD
> Integrated zone how so you do that?
Really confused now.

> Is there a way to do an initial copy of it if I can't keep them in
> sync?
This one didn't get any better.

Not sure what you are attempting to do, but if you are saying you have two
domains with the same name you cannot do this one one DNS server or on the
same network, including the public Network. It is one or the other but not
both. If the two domains are Active Directory domains, it makes it even
worse, it can't be done on the same network.



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Scott Townsend
11-07-2005, 02:43 PM
Thank you for your reply. Sorry, Let me try to Clarify...

I'm not speaking of our 'NT Domain', just a Domain that we have on our AD
DNS Server.

NT Domain Name = abc.com
company Domain = 123.com
new Domain = new123.com

Currently we have 123.com in our AD DNS, as we use the name behind the
firewall and access Web-servers with that DNS Name.

We just purchased new123.com and would like to be able to have the same DNS
record info for it as 123.com.

On our Standalone Internet DNS Server All I do is point the zonefile of
new123.com to the zone file of 123.com and all is good.

In AD, there is no Zone file, so I cant just point the new domain name to
the Existing. Seems like the last time I did this, we had to remove 123.com
from AD and make it a Primary on the AD DNS Server. Then Copy the Zone file,
then point the new123.com to the zone file, then convert both back to AD
domains.

Just seems like they should have fixed this in 2003...

Thanks,
Scott<-

"Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" <admin@nospam.WFTX.US> wrote in message
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> Scott Townsend <scott-i@.-N0-SPAMplease.enm.com> wrote:
>> We have a new domain name that I want to be identical to an existing
>> domain name.
> Huh? Please clarify.
>
>> Without Active Directory, you just use the same Zone File. With an AD
>> Integrated zone how so you do that?
> Really confused now.
>
>> Is there a way to do an initial copy of it if I can't keep them in
>> sync?
> This one didn't get any better.
>
> Not sure what you are attempting to do, but if you are saying you have two
> domains with the same name you cannot do this one one DNS server or on the
> same network, including the public Network. It is one or the other but not
> both. If the two domains are Active Directory domains, it makes it even
> worse, it can't be done on the same network.
>
>
>
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> Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
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W C Hull
11-08-2005, 07:11 AM
Not saying that this would work as I have not tried it myself but I would
think that what you referred to in your post is the only way I am aware of
that you can create a new zone from an existing zone. I think I would
change the zone from AD integrated to a Primary zone file then copy the zone
file to the new name and then create a new primary and specify that you want
to use the copied file as a source. If that works, change both zones back
from Primary zone files to AD Integrated zones. Again, I have never tried
doing this before myself but it might work.

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"Scott Townsend" <scott-i@.-N0-SPAMplease.enm.com> wrote in message
news:uJoppm64FHA.2824@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Thank you for your reply. Sorry, Let me try to Clarify...
>
> I'm not speaking of our 'NT Domain', just a Domain that we have on our AD
> DNS Server.
>
> NT Domain Name = abc.com
> company Domain = 123.com
> new Domain = new123.com
>
> Currently we have 123.com in our AD DNS, as we use the name behind the
> firewall and access Web-servers with that DNS Name.
>
> We just purchased new123.com and would like to be able to have the same
> DNS record info for it as 123.com.
>
> On our Standalone Internet DNS Server All I do is point the zonefile of
> new123.com to the zone file of 123.com and all is good.
>
> In AD, there is no Zone file, so I cant just point the new domain name to
> the Existing. Seems like the last time I did this, we had to remove
> 123.com from AD and make it a Primary on the AD DNS Server. Then Copy the
> Zone file, then point the new123.com to the zone file, then convert both
> back to AD domains.
>
> Just seems like they should have fixed this in 2003...
>
> Thanks,
> Scott<-
>
> "Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" <admin@nospam.WFTX.US> wrote in message
> news:ORmZrfP4FHA.2640@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Scott Townsend <scott-i@.-N0-SPAMplease.enm.com> wrote:
>>> We have a new domain name that I want to be identical to an existing
>>> domain name.
>> Huh? Please clarify.
>>
>>> Without Active Directory, you just use the same Zone File. With an AD
>>> Integrated zone how so you do that?
>> Really confused now.
>>
>>> Is there a way to do an initial copy of it if I can't keep them in
>>> sync?
>> This one didn't get any better.
>>
>> Not sure what you are attempting to do, but if you are saying you have
>> two
>> domains with the same name you cannot do this one one DNS server or on
>> the
>> same network, including the public Network. It is one or the other but
>> not
>> both. If the two domains are Active Directory domains, it makes it even
>> worse, it can't be done on the same network.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
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Scott Townsend
11-09-2005, 03:43 PM
That is what I ended up doing and all is good.

Though there should be a way for an AD integrated zone to be a mirror or
copy of another AD Integrated zone.

We have several domain names with various spellings (we have a & in the
company name) and I want all of our Domain names to have the same records in
them. Now if we make a change to the zone I need to make it on all 4
domains.

Thanks,
Scott<-
"W C Hull" <substitute1stInitial2ndInitialLastName51@hotmaill.com> wrote in
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> Not saying that this would work as I have not tried it myself but I would
> think that what you referred to in your post is the only way I am aware of
> that you can create a new zone from an existing zone. I think I would
> change the zone from AD integrated to a Primary zone file then copy the
> zone file to the new name and then create a new primary and specify that
> you want to use the copied file as a source. If that works, change both
> zones back from Primary zone files to AD Integrated zones. Again, I have
> never tried doing this before myself but it might work.
>
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> "Scott Townsend" <scott-i@.-N0-SPAMplease.enm.com> wrote in message
> news:uJoppm64FHA.2824@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Thank you for your reply. Sorry, Let me try to Clarify...
>>
>> I'm not speaking of our 'NT Domain', just a Domain that we have on our AD
>> DNS Server.
>>
>> NT Domain Name = abc.com
>> company Domain = 123.com
>> new Domain = new123.com
>>
>> Currently we have 123.com in our AD DNS, as we use the name behind the
>> firewall and access Web-servers with that DNS Name.
>>
>> We just purchased new123.com and would like to be able to have the same
>> DNS record info for it as 123.com.
>>
>> On our Standalone Internet DNS Server All I do is point the zonefile of
>> new123.com to the zone file of 123.com and all is good.
>>
>> In AD, there is no Zone file, so I cant just point the new domain name to
>> the Existing. Seems like the last time I did this, we had to remove
>> 123.com from AD and make it a Primary on the AD DNS Server. Then Copy the
>> Zone file, then point the new123.com to the zone file, then convert both
>> back to AD domains.
>>
>> Just seems like they should have fixed this in 2003...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Scott<-
>>
>> "Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]" <admin@nospam.WFTX.US> wrote in message
>> news:ORmZrfP4FHA.2640@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> Scott Townsend <scott-i@.-N0-SPAMplease.enm.com> wrote:
>>>> We have a new domain name that I want to be identical to an existing
>>>> domain name.
>>> Huh? Please clarify.
>>>
>>>> Without Active Directory, you just use the same Zone File. With an AD
>>>> Integrated zone how so you do that?
>>> Really confused now.
>>>
>>>> Is there a way to do an initial copy of it if I can't keep them in
>>>> sync?
>>> This one didn't get any better.
>>>
>>> Not sure what you are attempting to do, but if you are saying you have
>>> two
>>> domains with the same name you cannot do this one one DNS server or on
>>> the
>>> same network, including the public Network. It is one or the other but
>>> not
>>> both. If the two domains are Active Directory domains, it makes it even
>>> worse, it can't be done on the same network.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]
>>> Hope This Helps
>>> ===================================
>>> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group"
>>> via your newsreader so that others may learn and
>>> benefit from your issue, to respond directly to
>>> me remove the nospam. from my email address.
>>> ===================================
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