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Medo_in_Egypt

06-26-2005, 03:56 PM

Dear All,

We are Planing to Have One Forest, with Multiple Domains Trees as the
following :-

1. KTC.COM
2. MUX.COM
3. TRU.COM
4. LON-UK.COM

and Each one of the abouve Domain have 25 users as the following :-
1. KTC.COM ( Have 25 Users ).
2. MUX.COM ( Have 25 Users).
3. TRU.COM ( Have 25 Users).
4. LON-UK.COM ( have 25 Users ).

So the Total Users will be 100 Users.

i am going to install KTC.COM as the Forest Root Domain, & Install DNS
server on one Machine and configure one Forward Zone with name of the Forest
Root Doamin which is ( KTC.COM) and this DNS server is the Root ( .) .

and i found that its Working and the Forest Root is Working and the Domain
Controller is Able to communicate with the Default DNS.

All of 100 users in the Same Network with this IP-Address Schema (
192.168.1.X ) / 24.

Now, i want to install the Domain ( MUX.COM) as New Domain Tree in the
exsisting Forest to share the same Exchange Box.

so what i did is :-

1. Bring New Server.
2.Install Windows Advanced Server 2000 Enterprise edition.
3.Put this IP-Address 192.168.1.20 & the DNS For this server will be the
Same which is 192.168.1.20.
4. Install the DNS on that Machine.
5.Run this Command ( DCPROMO).

Here is the Problem, i found that , while i am trying to install the domain,
its display error message which is ( The Domain Controller for Domain
KTC.COM, is Not available ).

so when i face this situation, i said to my self, this is because the Domain
( MUX) is unable to find the DNS and then unable to find the Domain
Controller for KTC.

( Because the Role is , the Active Directory Clients - WinXP-PRO, Win
Server, Win2000 Pro, Win98 ...ETC, should first ASK there DNS server to Get
from him the Specifc Resource Recourd , and in this Case i was installed DNS
on This Machine and i made it as Root , which is Wronge ).

So what i did is :-
1.uninstall the DNS server from the Domain ( MUX.COM )
2.Create Forward Lookup Zone with this Name ( MUX.COM).
3. Configure the Server to register him self in the DNS of the Domain
KTC.COM ( By Changing the IP-Address of the Preferd DNS server, to be the DNS
server of the Domain KTC.COM , instead of MUX.COM ).
4. Run again the DCPROMO Command .

then i found that its working Perfect. without any problem and the Trust
Relation ship is created automatically and the Users in Both Domains are able
to access each other .

=====================================================

My Questions is :-

1. Can the DNS Host Multiple Domains like My Situation , or Not ?

2. is there any Problems i will face it in the Future from this Design ,
with One DNS Server and hosted Multiple Domains on it , and the clients for
MUX , will recorde them self only in MUX.COM Forward Lookup Zone, and the
users of KTC.COM, will register them self in the KTC.COM Forward Lookup Zone.
, do you excepect any Problems in the Future ?
=====================================================
I tested it from The Clients which is they are register them self in The
Forward Lookup Zone of the domain KTC.COM, by using the command NSLOOKUP, and
i found that they are able to commnuicate with the DNS server & can see each
other in this Forward Lookup Zone only with the name of the Domain ( KTC.COM
), while they are unable to see any Resource for the domain ( MUX.COM ) at
all, and the same situation for MUX.COM, they are able only to see the
Resouce in the Domain MUX.COM only and unable to see the Resource in KTC.COM.

so do you think i am correct , or not ? Please Help ?

Dodo2u

06-26-2005, 07:24 PM

"=?Utf-8?B?TWVkb19pbl9FZ3lwdA==?="
<MedoinEgypt@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
news:C5CA752D-1DF3-433A-9CA7-0FD02257A2B6@microsoft.com:

> Dear All,
>
> We are Planing to Have One Forest, with Multiple Domains Trees as the
> following :-
>
> 1. KTC.COM
> 2. MUX.COM
> 3. TRU.COM
> 4. LON-UK.COM
>
> and Each one of the abouve Domain have 25 users as the following :-
> 1. KTC.COM ( Have 25 Users ).
> 2. MUX.COM ( Have 25 Users).
> 3. TRU.COM ( Have 25 Users).
> 4. LON-UK.COM ( have 25 Users ).
>
> So the Total Users will be 100 Users.
>
> i am going to install KTC.COM as the Forest Root Domain, & Install DNS
> server on one Machine and configure one Forward Zone with name of the
> Forest Root Doamin which is ( KTC.COM) and this DNS server is the Root
> ( .) .
>
> and i found that its Working and the Forest Root is Working and the
> Domain Controller is Able to communicate with the Default DNS.
>
> All of 100 users in the Same Network with this IP-Address Schema (
> 192.168.1.X ) / 24.
>
> Now, i want to install the Domain ( MUX.COM) as New Domain Tree in the
> exsisting Forest to share the same Exchange Box.
>
> so what i did is :-
>
> 1. Bring New Server.
> 2.Install Windows Advanced Server 2000 Enterprise edition.
> 3.Put this IP-Address 192.168.1.20 & the DNS For this server will be
> the Same which is 192.168.1.20.
> 4. Install the DNS on that Machine.
> 5.Run this Command ( DCPROMO).
>
> Here is the Problem, i found that , while i am trying to install the
> domain, its display error message which is ( The Domain Controller for
> Domain KTC.COM, is Not available ).
>
> so when i face this situation, i said to my self, this is because the
> Domain ( MUX) is unable to find the DNS and then unable to find the
> Domain Controller for KTC.
>
> ( Because the Role is , the Active Directory Clients - WinXP-PRO, Win
> Server, Win2000 Pro, Win98 ...ETC, should first ASK there DNS server
> to Get from him the Specifc Resource Recourd , and in this Case i was
> installed DNS on This Machine and i made it as Root , which is Wronge
> ).
>
> So what i did is :-
> 1.uninstall the DNS server from the Domain ( MUX.COM )
> 2.Create Forward Lookup Zone with this Name ( MUX.COM).
> 3. Configure the Server to register him self in the DNS of the Domain
> KTC.COM ( By Changing the IP-Address of the Preferd DNS server, to be
> the DNS server of the Domain KTC.COM , instead of MUX.COM ).
> 4. Run again the DCPROMO Command .
>
> then i found that its working Perfect. without any problem and the
> Trust Relation ship is created automatically and the Users in Both
> Domains are able to access each other .
>
> =====================================================
>
> My Questions is :-
>
> 1. Can the DNS Host Multiple Domains like My Situation , or Not ?
>
> 2. is there any Problems i will face it in the Future from this Design
> , with One DNS Server and hosted Multiple Domains on it , and the
> clients for MUX , will recorde them self only in MUX.COM Forward
> Lookup Zone, and the users of KTC.COM, will register them self in the
> KTC.COM Forward Lookup Zone. , do you excepect any Problems in the
> Future ? =====================================================
> I tested it from The Clients which is they are register them self in
> The Forward Lookup Zone of the domain KTC.COM, by using the command
> NSLOOKUP, and i found that they are able to commnuicate with the DNS
> server & can see each other in this Forward Lookup Zone only with the
> name of the Domain ( KTC.COM ), while they are unable to see any
> Resource for the domain ( MUX.COM ) at all, and the same situation for
> MUX.COM, they are able only to see the Resouce in the Domain MUX.COM
> only and unable to see the Resource in KTC.COM.
>
> so do you think i am correct , or not ? Please Help ?
>
>
>

Shit!!
How many times do you need an answer?

Dodo2u

06-26-2005, 07:24 PM

Tony

06-28-2005, 10:34 PM

It sounds like a microsoft exam question!

So to get it straight you want to :

1/ Install 4 DCs, each running DNS for their own domain, all domains in
one forest
2/ Have clients from each domain share an exchange box (With different
email addresses ?)
3/ Do you want the clients to use the DNS from their own domain, or just
use DNS from the forest root ? What about resiliancy
4/Do the users need to access resources in other domains.
5/ Is there any specific (technical,political or geographical) reasons
for four domains

Your design works, but I think it will give you problems in the future.
EG if all clients in all domains are using one DNS server,
what happens when it goes BANG.

Dodo2u wrote:
> "=?Utf-8?B?TWVkb19pbl9FZ3lwdA==?="
> <MedoinEgypt@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> news:C5CA752D-1DF3-433A-9CA7-0FD02257A2B6@microsoft.com:
>
>
>>Dear All,
>>
>>We are Planing to Have One Forest, with Multiple Domains Trees as the
>>following :-
>>
>>1. KTC.COM
>>2. MUX.COM
>>3. TRU.COM
>>4. LON-UK.COM
>>
>>and Each one of the abouve Domain have 25 users as the following :-
>>1. KTC.COM ( Have 25 Users ).
>>2. MUX.COM ( Have 25 Users).
>>3. TRU.COM ( Have 25 Users).
>>4. LON-UK.COM ( have 25 Users ).
>>
>>So the Total Users will be 100 Users.
>>
>>i am going to install KTC.COM as the Forest Root Domain, & Install DNS
>>server on one Machine and configure one Forward Zone with name of the
>>Forest Root Doamin which is ( KTC.COM) and this DNS server is the Root
>>( .) .
>>
>>and i found that its Working and the Forest Root is Working and the
>>Domain Controller is Able to communicate with the Default DNS.
>>
>>All of 100 users in the Same Network with this IP-Address Schema (
>>192.168.1.X ) / 24.
>>
>>Now, i want to install the Domain ( MUX.COM) as New Domain Tree in the
>>exsisting Forest to share the same Exchange Box.
>>
>>so what i did is :-
>>
>>1. Bring New Server.
>>2.Install Windows Advanced Server 2000 Enterprise edition.
>>3.Put this IP-Address 192.168.1.20 & the DNS For this server will be
>>the Same which is 192.168.1.20.
>>4. Install the DNS on that Machine.
>>5.Run this Command ( DCPROMO).
>>
>>Here is the Problem, i found that , while i am trying to install the
>>domain, its display error message which is ( The Domain Controller for
>>Domain KTC.COM, is Not available ).
>>
>>so when i face this situation, i said to my self, this is because the
>>Domain ( MUX) is unable to find the DNS and then unable to find the
>>Domain Controller for KTC.
>>
>>( Because the Role is , the Active Directory Clients - WinXP-PRO, Win
>>Server, Win2000 Pro, Win98 ...ETC, should first ASK there DNS server
>>to Get from him the Specifc Resource Recourd , and in this Case i was
>>installed DNS on This Machine and i made it as Root , which is Wronge
>>).
>>
>>So what i did is :-
>>1.uninstall the DNS server from the Domain ( MUX.COM )
>>2.Create Forward Lookup Zone with this Name ( MUX.COM).
>>3. Configure the Server to register him self in the DNS of the Domain
>>KTC.COM ( By Changing the IP-Address of the Preferd DNS server, to be
>>the DNS server of the Domain KTC.COM , instead of MUX.COM ).
>>4. Run again the DCPROMO Command .
>>
>>then i found that its working Perfect. without any problem and the
>>Trust Relation ship is created automatically and the Users in Both
>>Domains are able to access each other .
>>
>>=====================================================
>>
>>My Questions is :-
>>
>>1. Can the DNS Host Multiple Domains like My Situation , or Not ?
>>
>>2. is there any Problems i will face it in the Future from this Design
>>, with One DNS Server and hosted Multiple Domains on it , and the
>>clients for MUX , will recorde them self only in MUX.COM Forward
>>Lookup Zone, and the users of KTC.COM, will register them self in the
>>KTC.COM Forward Lookup Zone. , do you excepect any Problems in the
>>Future ? =====================================================
>>I tested it from The Clients which is they are register them self in
>>The Forward Lookup Zone of the domain KTC.COM, by using the command
>>NSLOOKUP, and i found that they are able to commnuicate with the DNS
>>server & can see each other in this Forward Lookup Zone only with the
>>name of the Domain ( KTC.COM ), while they are unable to see any
>>Resource for the domain ( MUX.COM ) at all, and the same situation for
>>MUX.COM, they are able only to see the Resouce in the Domain MUX.COM
>>only and unable to see the Resource in KTC.COM.
>>
>>so do you think i am correct , or not ? Please Help ?
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Shit!!
> How many times do you need an answer?

Tony

06-28-2005, 10:34 PM

In Disguise

06-29-2005, 12:01 AM

I'm glad you were able to decipher it!

Tony wrote:
> It sounds like a microsoft exam question!
>
> So to get it straight you want to :
>
> 1/ Install 4 DCs, each running DNS for their own domain, all domains in
> one forest
> 2/ Have clients from each domain share an exchange box (With different
> email addresses ?)
> 3/ Do you want the clients to use the DNS from their own domain, or just
> use DNS from the forest root ? What about resiliancy
> 4/Do the users need to access resources in other domains.
> 5/ Is there any specific (technical,political or geographical) reasons
> for four domains
>
> Your design works, but I think it will give you problems in the future.
> EG if all clients in all domains are using one DNS server,
> what happens when it goes BANG.
>
> Dodo2u wrote:
>
>> "=?Utf-8?B?TWVkb19pbl9FZ3lwdA==?="
>> <MedoinEgypt@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> news:C5CA752D-1DF3-433A-9CA7-0FD02257A2B6@microsoft.com:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> We are Planing to Have One Forest, with Multiple Domains Trees as the
>>> following :-
>>>
>>> 1. KTC.COM
>>> 2. MUX.COM
>>> 3. TRU.COM
>>> 4. LON-UK.COM
>>>
>>> and Each one of the abouve Domain have 25 users as the following :-
>>> 1. KTC.COM ( Have 25 Users ).
>>> 2. MUX.COM ( Have 25 Users).
>>> 3. TRU.COM ( Have 25 Users).
>>> 4. LON-UK.COM ( have 25 Users ).
>>>
>>> So the Total Users will be 100 Users.
>>>
>>> i am going to install KTC.COM as the Forest Root Domain, & Install DNS
>>> server on one Machine and configure one Forward Zone with name of the
>>> Forest Root Doamin which is ( KTC.COM) and this DNS server is the Root
>>> ( .) .
>>> and i found that its Working and the Forest Root is Working and the
>>> Domain Controller is Able to communicate with the Default DNS.
>>>
>>> All of 100 users in the Same Network with this IP-Address Schema (
>>> 192.168.1.X ) / 24.
>>>
>>> Now, i want to install the Domain ( MUX.COM) as New Domain Tree in the
>>> exsisting Forest to share the same Exchange Box.
>>>
>>> so what i did is :-
>>>
>>> 1. Bring New Server.
>>> 2.Install Windows Advanced Server 2000 Enterprise edition.
>>> 3.Put this IP-Address 192.168.1.20 & the DNS For this server will be
>>> the Same which is 192.168.1.20.
>>> 4. Install the DNS on that Machine.
>>> 5.Run this Command ( DCPROMO).
>>>
>>> Here is the Problem, i found that , while i am trying to install the
>>> domain, its display error message which is ( The Domain Controller for
>>> Domain KTC.COM, is Not available ).
>>>
>>> so when i face this situation, i said to my self, this is because the
>>> Domain ( MUX) is unable to find the DNS and then unable to find the
>>> Domain Controller for KTC.
>>>
>>> ( Because the Role is , the Active Directory Clients - WinXP-PRO, Win
>>> Server, Win2000 Pro, Win98 ...ETC, should first ASK there DNS server
>>> to Get from him the Specifc Resource Recourd , and in this Case i was
>>> installed DNS on This Machine and i made it as Root , which is Wronge
>>> ).
>>> So what i did is :-
>>> 1.uninstall the DNS server from the Domain ( MUX.COM )
>>> 2.Create Forward Lookup Zone with this Name ( MUX.COM).
>>> 3. Configure the Server to register him self in the DNS of the Domain
>>> KTC.COM ( By Changing the IP-Address of the Preferd DNS server, to be
>>> the DNS server of the Domain KTC.COM , instead of MUX.COM ).
>>> 4. Run again the DCPROMO Command .
>>>
>>> then i found that its working Perfect. without any problem and the
>>> Trust Relation ship is created automatically and the Users in Both
>>> Domains are able to access each other .
>>>
>>> =====================================================
>>>
>>> My Questions is :-
>>>
>>> 1. Can the DNS Host Multiple Domains like My Situation , or Not ?
>>>
>>> 2. is there any Problems i will face it in the Future from this Design
>>> , with One DNS Server and hosted Multiple Domains on it , and the
>>> clients for MUX , will recorde them self only in MUX.COM Forward
>>> Lookup Zone, and the users of KTC.COM, will register them self in the
>>> KTC.COM Forward Lookup Zone. , do you excepect any Problems in the
>>> Future ? =====================================================
>>> I tested it from The Clients which is they are register them self in
>>> The Forward Lookup Zone of the domain KTC.COM, by using the command
>>> NSLOOKUP, and i found that they are able to commnuicate with the DNS
>>> server & can see each other in this Forward Lookup Zone only with the
>>> name of the Domain ( KTC.COM ), while they are unable to see any
>>> Resource for the domain ( MUX.COM ) at all, and the same situation for
>>> MUX.COM, they are able only to see the Resouce in the Domain MUX.COM
>>> only and unable to see the Resource in KTC.COM.
>>> so do you think i am correct , or not ? Please Help ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Shit!!
>> How many times do you need an answer?

In Disguise

06-29-2005, 12:01 AM

Bob Christian

07-20-2005, 06:40 AM

That's going to be an expensive solution for 100 users....

--
Bob Christian II
http://bobchristian.blogspot.com - Blog

"In Disguise" <in@disguise.com> wrote in message
news:%23gnPGVDfFHA.268@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> I'm glad you were able to decipher it!
>
>
> Tony wrote:
>> It sounds like a microsoft exam question!
>>
>> So to get it straight you want to :
>>
>> 1/ Install 4 DCs, each running DNS for their own domain, all domains in
>> one forest
>> 2/ Have clients from each domain share an exchange box (With different
>> email addresses ?)
>> 3/ Do you want the clients to use the DNS from their own domain, or just
>> use DNS from the forest root ? What about resiliancy
>> 4/Do the users need to access resources in other domains.
>> 5/ Is there any specific (technical,political or geographical) reasons
>> for four domains
>>
>> Your design works, but I think it will give you problems in the future.
>> EG if all clients in all domains are using one DNS server,
>> what happens when it goes BANG.
>>
>> Dodo2u wrote:
>>
>>> "=?Utf-8?B?TWVkb19pbl9FZ3lwdA==?="
>>> <MedoinEgypt@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>> news:C5CA752D-1DF3-433A-9CA7-0FD02257A2B6@microsoft.com:
>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> We are Planing to Have One Forest, with Multiple Domains Trees as the
>>>> following :-
>>>>
>>>> 1. KTC.COM
>>>> 2. MUX.COM
>>>> 3. TRU.COM
>>>> 4. LON-UK.COM
>>>>
>>>> and Each one of the abouve Domain have 25 users as the following :-
>>>> 1. KTC.COM ( Have 25 Users ).
>>>> 2. MUX.COM ( Have 25 Users).
>>>> 3. TRU.COM ( Have 25 Users).
>>>> 4. LON-UK.COM ( have 25 Users ).
>>>>
>>>> So the Total Users will be 100 Users.
>>>>
>>>> i am going to install KTC.COM as the Forest Root Domain, & Install DNS
>>>> server on one Machine and configure one Forward Zone with name of the
>>>> Forest Root Doamin which is ( KTC.COM) and this DNS server is the Root
>>>> ( .) .
>>>> and i found that its Working and the Forest Root is Working and the
>>>> Domain Controller is Able to communicate with the Default DNS.
>>>>
>>>> All of 100 users in the Same Network with this IP-Address Schema (
>>>> 192.168.1.X ) / 24.
>>>>
>>>> Now, i want to install the Domain ( MUX.COM) as New Domain Tree in the
>>>> exsisting Forest to share the same Exchange Box.
>>>>
>>>> so what i did is :-
>>>>
>>>> 1. Bring New Server.
>>>> 2.Install Windows Advanced Server 2000 Enterprise edition.
>>>> 3.Put this IP-Address 192.168.1.20 & the DNS For this server will be
>>>> the Same which is 192.168.1.20.
>>>> 4. Install the DNS on that Machine.
>>>> 5.Run this Command ( DCPROMO).
>>>>
>>>> Here is the Problem, i found that , while i am trying to install the
>>>> domain, its display error message which is ( The Domain Controller for
>>>> Domain KTC.COM, is Not available ).
>>>>
>>>> so when i face this situation, i said to my self, this is because the
>>>> Domain ( MUX) is unable to find the DNS and then unable to find the
>>>> Domain Controller for KTC.
>>>>
>>>> ( Because the Role is , the Active Directory Clients - WinXP-PRO, Win
>>>> Server, Win2000 Pro, Win98 ...ETC, should first ASK there DNS server
>>>> to Get from him the Specifc Resource Recourd , and in this Case i was
>>>> installed DNS on This Machine and i made it as Root , which is Wronge
>>>> ).
>>>> So what i did is :-
>>>> 1.uninstall the DNS server from the Domain ( MUX.COM )
>>>> 2.Create Forward Lookup Zone with this Name ( MUX.COM).
>>>> 3. Configure the Server to register him self in the DNS of the Domain
>>>> KTC.COM ( By Changing the IP-Address of the Preferd DNS server, to be
>>>> the DNS server of the Domain KTC.COM , instead of MUX.COM ).
>>>> 4. Run again the DCPROMO Command .
>>>>
>>>> then i found that its working Perfect. without any problem and the
>>>> Trust Relation ship is created automatically and the Users in Both
>>>> Domains are able to access each other .
>>>>
>>>> =====================================================
>>>>
>>>> My Questions is :-
>>>>
>>>> 1. Can the DNS Host Multiple Domains like My Situation , or Not ?
>>>>
>>>> 2. is there any Problems i will face it in the Future from this Design
>>>> , with One DNS Server and hosted Multiple Domains on it , and the
>>>> clients for MUX , will recorde them self only in MUX.COM Forward
>>>> Lookup Zone, and the users of KTC.COM, will register them self in the
>>>> KTC.COM Forward Lookup Zone. , do you excepect any Problems in the
>>>> Future ? =====================================================
>>>> I tested it from The Clients which is they are register them self in
>>>> The Forward Lookup Zone of the domain KTC.COM, by using the command
>>>> NSLOOKUP, and i found that they are able to commnuicate with the DNS
>>>> server & can see each other in this Forward Lookup Zone only with the
>>>> name of the Domain ( KTC.COM ), while they are unable to see any
>>>> Resource for the domain ( MUX.COM ) at all, and the same situation for
>>>> MUX.COM, they are able only to see the Resouce in the Domain MUX.COM
>>>> only and unable to see the Resource in KTC.COM.
>>>> so do you think i am correct , or not ? Please Help ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Shit!!
>>> How many times do you need an answer?

Bob Christian

07-20-2005, 06:40 AM