strange problem, win2k on ide1, 2nd HD on ide0, bios set to boot HD1

if i unplug the 2nd ide0 drive, then win2k won't boot on ide1

why is this

and why is ide1 being referred to as HD1 in the bios boot order instead
of ide0?


they are both detected at boot, further once booted the drive does not
show up in the file system, 'my computer' only the ide1 drive?
I'm stumped.

i want to either boot linux off the 2nd drive or stripe it and am not
getting either done, i dual booted this way in the past just swapping
boot order, i know linux only want to be on one particular channel,
but if windows works this way, why isn't it ide0 or why does it
REQUIRE that the other ide channel be filled
with a drive it then doesn't show in the file system?

thanks for any help

<fm2006fm@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158049161.974310.239190@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> strange problem, win2k on ide1, 2nd HD on ide0, bios set to boot HD1
>
> if i unplug the 2nd ide0 drive, then win2k won't boot on ide1
>
> why is this
>
> and why is ide1 being referred to as HD1 in the bios boot order instead
> of ide0?
>
>
> they are both detected at boot, further once booted the drive does not
> show up in the file system, 'my computer' only the ide1 drive?
> I'm stumped.
>
> i want to either boot linux off the 2nd drive or stripe it and am not
> getting either done, i dual booted this way in the past just swapping
> boot order, i know linux only want to be on one particular channel,
> but if windows works this way, why isn't it ide0 or why does it
> REQUIRE that the other ide channel be filled
> with a drive it then doesn't show in the file system?
>
> thanks for any help
>

How far does the boot process go with only one disk connected?

On 12 Sep 2006 01:19:35 -0700, fm2006fm@gmail.com wrote:

>strange problem, win2k on ide1, 2nd HD on ide0, bios set to boot HD1
>
>if i unplug the 2nd ide0 drive, then win2k won't boot on ide1

Because what used to be rdisk(1) is now rdisk(0). See boot.ini.

>
>why is this
>
>and why is ide1 being referred to as HD1 in the bios boot order instead
>of ide0?

Because you set it that way?

>
>
>they are both detected at boot, further once booted the drive does not
>show up in the file system, 'my computer' only the ide1 drive?

Because the 2nd HD does not have valid (to Windows) partitions.

> I'm stumped.
>
>i want to either boot linux off the 2nd drive or stripe it and am not
>getting either done, i dual booted this way in the past just swapping
>boot order, i know linux only want to be on one particular channel,
>but if windows works this way, why isn't it ide0 or why does it
>REQUIRE that the other ide channel be filled
> with a drive it then doesn't show in the file system?
>
>thanks for any help

thx for your answers, my response below

without the 2nd drive plugged into ide0 i get no further than

verifying DMI pool data
disk boot failure





Andy wrote:
> On 12 Sep 2006 01:19:35 -0700, fm2006fm@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >strange problem, win2k on ide1, 2nd HD on ide0, bios set to boot HD1
> >
> >if i unplug the 2nd ide0 drive, then win2k won't boot on ide1
>
> Because what used to be rdisk(1) is now rdisk(0). See boot.ini.

........sorry what does this mean? what is rdisk ? you mean look in
w2k's boot.ini somewhere?


>
> >
> >why is this

> >
> >and why is ide1 being referred to as HD1 in the bios boot order instead
> >of ide0?
>
> Because you set it that way?

........is that settable in the bios, shouldn't ide0 be hd1 ?

> >
> >
> >they are both detected at boot, further once booted the drive does not
> >show up in the file system, 'my computer' only the ide1 drive?
>
> Because the 2nd HD does not have valid (to Windows) partitions.

.......well previously it appeared and asked if i wanted to format it ,
but yes it has linux OS on it


M

Some disks have two jumper positions for a master disk:
a) Single Master
b) Master with Slave present

I suspect that you're on setting b), hence the failure you
experience.


<fm2006fm@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158122165.423838.43990@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> thx for your answers, my response below
>
> without the 2nd drive plugged into ide0 i get no further than
>
> verifying DMI pool data
> disk boot failure
>
>
>
>
>
> Andy wrote:
> > On 12 Sep 2006 01:19:35 -0700, fm2006fm@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > >strange problem, win2k on ide1, 2nd HD on ide0, bios set to boot HD1
> > >
> > >if i unplug the 2nd ide0 drive, then win2k won't boot on ide1
> >
> > Because what used to be rdisk(1) is now rdisk(0). See boot.ini.
>
> .......sorry what does this mean? what is rdisk ? you mean look in
> w2k's boot.ini somewhere?
>
>
> >
> > >
> > >why is this
>
> > >
> > >and why is ide1 being referred to as HD1 in the bios boot order instead
> > >of ide0?
> >
> > Because you set it that way?
>
> .......is that settable in the bios, shouldn't ide0 be hd1 ?
>
> > >
> > >
> > >they are both detected at boot, further once booted the drive does not
> > >show up in the file system, 'my computer' only the ide1 drive?
> >
> > Because the 2nd HD does not have valid (to Windows) partitions.
>
> ......well previously it appeared and asked if i wanted to format it ,
> but yes it has linux OS on it
>
>
> M
>

both cables are on cable select
i've referenced the manuals online to double check this
any other ideas welcomed


M


Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
> Some disks have two jumper positions for a master disk:
> a) Single Master
> b) Master with Slave present
>
> I suspect that you're on setting b), hence the failure you
> experience.
>
>
> <fm2006fm@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1158122165.423838.43990@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > thx for your answers, my response below
> >
> > without the 2nd drive plugged into ide0 i get no further than
> >
> > verifying DMI pool data
> > disk boot failure
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Andy wrote:
> > > On 12 Sep 2006 01:19:35 -0700, fm2006fm@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > >strange problem, win2k on ide1, 2nd HD on ide0, bios set to boot HD1
> > > >
> > > >if i unplug the 2nd ide0 drive, then win2k won't boot on ide1
> > >
> > > Because what used to be rdisk(1) is now rdisk(0). See boot.ini.
> >
> > .......sorry what does this mean? what is rdisk ? you mean look in
> > w2k's boot.ini somewhere?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >why is this
> >
> > > >
> > > >and why is ide1 being referred to as HD1 in the bios boot order instead
> > > >of ide0?
> > >
> > > Because you set it that way?
> >
> > .......is that settable in the bios, shouldn't ide0 be hd1 ?
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >they are both detected at boot, further once booted the drive does not
> > > >show up in the file system, 'my computer' only the ide1 drive?
> > >
> > > Because the 2nd HD does not have valid (to Windows) partitions.
> >
> > ......well previously it appeared and asked if i wanted to format it ,
> > but yes it has linux OS on it
> >
> >
> > M
> >

I would try a master/slave combination.

<fm2006fm@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158208359.225733.21760@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> both cables are on cable select
> i've referenced the manuals online to double check this
> any other ideas welcomed
>
>
> M
>
>
> Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
> > Some disks have two jumper positions for a master disk:
> > a) Single Master
> > b) Master with Slave present
> >
> > I suspect that you're on setting b), hence the failure you
> > experience.
> >
> >
> > <fm2006fm@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1158122165.423838.43990@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > > thx for your answers, my response below
> > >
> > > without the 2nd drive plugged into ide0 i get no further than
> > >
> > > verifying DMI pool data
> > > disk boot failure
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Andy wrote:
> > > > On 12 Sep 2006 01:19:35 -0700, fm2006fm@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >strange problem, win2k on ide1, 2nd HD on ide0, bios set to boot
HD1
> > > > >
> > > > >if i unplug the 2nd ide0 drive, then win2k won't boot on ide1
> > > >
> > > > Because what used to be rdisk(1) is now rdisk(0). See boot.ini.
> > >
> > > .......sorry what does this mean? what is rdisk ? you mean look in
> > > w2k's boot.ini somewhere?
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >why is this
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >and why is ide1 being referred to as HD1 in the bios boot order
instead
> > > > >of ide0?
> > > >
> > > > Because you set it that way?
> > >
> > > .......is that settable in the bios, shouldn't ide0 be hd1 ?
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >they are both detected at boot, further once booted the drive does
not
> > > > >show up in the file system, 'my computer' only the ide1 drive?
> > > >
> > > > Because the 2nd HD does not have valid (to Windows) partitions.
> > >
> > > ......well previously it appeared and asked if i wanted to format it ,
> > > but yes it has linux OS on it
> > >
> > >
> > > M
> > >
>

just out of curiousity what is wrong with just leaving both drives on
'cable select'

i want to stripe the drives so would prefer not to place both on one
ide header

besides i want to know whats up with what would cause such a funky
thing as needing both ide headers full to boot win2k off the 2nd ide
channel?

M

Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
> I would try a master/slave combination.
>
> <fm2006fm@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1158208359.225733.21760@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > both cables are on cable select
> > i've referenced the manuals online to double check this
> > any other ideas welcomed
> >
> >
> > M
> >
> >
> > Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
> > > Some disks have two jumper positions for a master disk:
> > > a) Single Master
> > > b) Master with Slave present
> > >
> > > I suspect that you're on setting b), hence the failure you
> > > experience.
> > >
> > >
> > > <fm2006fm@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1158122165.423838.43990@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > > > thx for your answers, my response below
> > > >
> > > > without the 2nd drive plugged into ide0 i get no further than
> > > >
> > > > verifying DMI pool data
> > > > disk boot failure
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Andy wrote:
> > > > > On 12 Sep 2006 01:19:35 -0700, fm2006fm@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >strange problem, win2k on ide1, 2nd HD on ide0, bios set to boot
> HD1
> > > > > >
> > > > > >if i unplug the 2nd ide0 drive, then win2k won't boot on ide1
> > > > >
> > > > > Because what used to be rdisk(1) is now rdisk(0). See boot.ini.
> > > >
> > > > .......sorry what does this mean? what is rdisk ? you mean look in
> > > > w2k's boot.ini somewhere?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >why is this
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >and why is ide1 being referred to as HD1 in the bios boot order
> instead
> > > > > >of ide0?
> > > > >
> > > > > Because you set it that way?
> > > >
> > > > .......is that settable in the bios, shouldn't ide0 be hd1 ?
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >they are both detected at boot, further once booted the drive does
> not
> > > > > >show up in the file system, 'my computer' only the ide1 drive?
> > > > >
> > > > > Because the 2nd HD does not have valid (to Windows) partitions.
> > > >
> > > > ......well previously it appeared and asked if i wanted to format it ,
> > > > but yes it has linux OS on it
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > M
> > > >
> >

There is nothing wrong with leaving both drives on "cable
select", provided you can get it to work. During trouble-
shooting you have to explore all options, until you know
what's going on.


<fm2006fm@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158218382.627269.180820@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> just out of curiousity what is wrong with just leaving both drives on
> 'cable select'
>
> i want to stripe the drives so would prefer not to place both on one
> ide header
>
> besides i want to know whats up with what would cause such a funky
> thing as needing both ide headers full to boot win2k off the 2nd ide
> channel?
>
> M
>
> Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
> > I would try a master/slave combination.
> >
> > <fm2006fm@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1158208359.225733.21760@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > both cables are on cable select
> > > i've referenced the manuals online to double check this
> > > any other ideas welcomed
> > >
> > >
> > > M
> > >
> > >
> > > Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
> > > > Some disks have two jumper positions for a master disk:
> > > > a) Single Master
> > > > b) Master with Slave present
> > > >
> > > > I suspect that you're on setting b), hence the failure you
> > > > experience.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <fm2006fm@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:1158122165.423838.43990@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > thx for your answers, my response below
> > > > >
> > > > > without the 2nd drive plugged into ide0 i get no further than
> > > > >
> > > > > verifying DMI pool data
> > > > > disk boot failure
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy wrote:
> > > > > > On 12 Sep 2006 01:19:35 -0700, fm2006fm@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >strange problem, win2k on ide1, 2nd HD on ide0, bios set to
boot
> > HD1
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >if i unplug the 2nd ide0 drive, then win2k won't boot on ide1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Because what used to be rdisk(1) is now rdisk(0). See boot.ini.
> > > > >
> > > > > .......sorry what does this mean? what is rdisk ? you mean look
in
> > > > > w2k's boot.ini somewhere?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >why is this
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >and why is ide1 being referred to as HD1 in the bios boot order
> > instead
> > > > > > >of ide0?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Because you set it that way?
> > > > >
> > > > > .......is that settable in the bios, shouldn't ide0 be hd1 ?
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >they are both detected at boot, further once booted the drive
does
> > not
> > > > > > >show up in the file system, 'my computer' only the ide1 drive?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Because the 2nd HD does not have valid (to Windows) partitions.
> > > > >
> > > > > ......well previously it appeared and asked if i wanted to format
it ,
> > > > > but yes it has linux OS on it
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > M
> > > > >
> > >
>

ok well maybe i'll place both on master but seems to me cable select
vs. master shouldn't matter

thx though
Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
> There is nothing wrong with leaving both drives on "cable
> select", provided you can get it to work. During trouble-
> shooting you have to explore all options, until you know
> what's going on.
>
>
> <fm2006fm@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1158218382.627269.180820@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > just out of curiousity what is wrong with just leaving both drives on
> > 'cable select'
> >
> > i want to stripe the drives so would prefer not to place both on one
> > ide header
> >
> > besides i want to know whats up with what would cause such a funky
> > thing as needing both ide headers full to boot win2k off the 2nd ide
> > channel?
> >
> > M
> >
> > Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
> > > I would try a master/slave combination.
> > >
> > > <fm2006fm@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1158208359.225733.21760@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > > > both cables are on cable select
> > > > i've referenced the manuals online to double check this
> > > > any other ideas welcomed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > M
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
> > > > > Some disks have two jumper positions for a master disk:
> > > > > a) Single Master
> > > > > b) Master with Slave present
> > > > >
> > > > > I suspect that you're on setting b), hence the failure you
> > > > > experience.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > <fm2006fm@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:1158122165.423838.43990@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > > thx for your answers, my response below
> > > > > >
> > > > > > without the 2nd drive plugged into ide0 i get no further than
> > > > > >
> > > > > > verifying DMI pool data
> > > > > > disk boot failure
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Andy wrote:
> > > > > > > On 12 Sep 2006 01:19:35 -0700, fm2006fm@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >strange problem, win2k on ide1, 2nd HD on ide0, bios set to
> boot
> > > HD1
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >if i unplug the 2nd ide0 drive, then win2k won't boot on ide1
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Because what used to be rdisk(1) is now rdisk(0). See boot.ini.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > .......sorry what does this mean? what is rdisk ? you mean look
> in
> > > > > > w2k's boot.ini somewhere?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >why is this
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >and why is ide1 being referred to as HD1 in the bios boot order
> > > instead
> > > > > > > >of ide0?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Because you set it that way?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > .......is that settable in the bios, shouldn't ide0 be hd1 ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >they are both detected at boot, further once booted the drive
> does
> > > not
> > > > > > > >show up in the file system, 'my computer' only the ide1 drive?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Because the 2nd HD does not have valid (to Windows) partitions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ......well previously it appeared and asked if i wanted to format
> it ,
> > > > > > but yes it has linux OS on it
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > M
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >