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Martin Glodde
09-22-2006, 01:38 PM
I recently upgraded my computer from Win98 to Win2K. Afterwards, Win2K
and Win98 were on the same partition. I installed Service Pack 4, then
all other security updates, then IE 6 SP1.
Now I have this problem: Windows keeps telling me that there is one
security update ready to install:
"Security Update for Microsoft Data Access Components (KB832483)"
When I click on the update icon in the task bar and click to install it,
I get the message that the update was installed successfully. However, a
couple of minutes later, the same update message pops up again in the
task bar. Repeating the installation doesn't help - it always keeps
popping up.
Any idea what causes this and how I can get rid of the problem? How do I
know if the update is installed or not?

Thanks,
Martin

Roger Abell [MVP]
09-22-2006, 03:33 PM
There is an faq and troubleshooting links if you manually go to
the Microsoft Update website, including information on the
newsgroups for update.

In your case, I would recommend visiting
www.microsoft.com/data
and downloading the latest MDac and manually installing it,
and then visiting the update site again.

"Martin Glodde" <glodde@sas.upenn.edu> wrote in message
news:4ni3qcFa7j0aU1@individual.net...
>I recently upgraded my computer from Win98 to Win2K. Afterwards, Win2K and
>Win98 were on the same partition. I installed Service Pack 4, then all
>other security updates, then IE 6 SP1.
> Now I have this problem: Windows keeps telling me that there is one
> security update ready to install:
> "Security Update for Microsoft Data Access Components (KB832483)"
> When I click on the update icon in the task bar and click to install it, I
> get the message that the update was installed successfully. However, a
> couple of minutes later, the same update message pops up again in the task
> bar. Repeating the installation doesn't help - it always keeps popping up.
> Any idea what causes this and how I can get rid of the problem? How do I
> know if the update is installed or not?
>
> Thanks,
> Martin

What's in a Name?
09-24-2006, 08:08 AM
Martin Glodde AKA glodde@sas.upenn.edu in
microsoft.public.win2000.security on 9/22/2006,after much thought,came
up with this jewel:

> I recently upgraded my computer from Win98 to Win2K. Afterwards,
> Win2K and Win98 were on the same partition. I installed Service Pack
> 4, then all other security updates, then IE 6 SP1. Now I have this
> problem: Windows keeps telling me that there is one security update
> ready to install: "Security Update for Microsoft Data Access
> Components (KB832483)" When I click on the update icon in the task
> bar and click to install it, I get the message that the update was
> installed successfully. However, a couple of minutes later, the same
> update message pops up again in the task bar. Repeating the
> installation doesn't help - it always keeps popping up. Any idea
> what causes this and how I can get rid of the problem? How do I know
> if the update is installed or not?
>
> Thanks,
> Martin

Try this
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=3DF5F605-EA6F-4
A98-BC1C-A76BC006859B&displaylang=en

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Karl Levinson, mvp
09-24-2006, 02:06 PM
"Martin Glodde" <glodde@sas.upenn.edu> wrote in message
news:4ni3qcFa7j0aU1@individual.net...
>I recently upgraded my computer from Win98 to Win2K. Afterwards, Win2K and
>Win98 were on the same partition. I installed Service Pack 4, then all
>other security updates, then IE 6 SP1.
> Now I have this problem: Windows keeps telling me that there is one
> security update ready to install:
> "Security Update for Microsoft Data Access Components (KB832483)"
> When I click on the update icon in the task bar and click to install it, I
> get the message that the update was installed successfully. However, a
> couple of minutes later, the same update message pops up again in the task
> bar. Repeating the installation doesn't help - it always keeps popping up.
> Any idea what causes this and how I can get rid of the problem? How do I
> know if the update is installed or not?

I recommend going to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com to check for
updates. This will usually either install the update and get rid of the
problem, or give you more verbose information as to whether the update
failed to install, and why.

If that fails, I would try manually downloading the patch .EXE file and
running that, for the same reasons as above. You might do that first.

If none of this helps, you can also run the EVENTVWR command [e.g. by
clicking Start, Run] to look for errors in the Windows System or Application
Event Logs, and check out the %windir%\windowsupdate.log file.

kind regards,
Karl Levinson, MS MVP
Security FAQ site:
http://securityadmin.info/faq.asp

What's in a Name?
09-24-2006, 07:17 PM
What's in a Name? AKA maxwachtel@nomail.afraid.org in
microsoft.public.win2000.security on 9/24/2006,after much thought,came
up with this jewel:

> Martin Glodde AKA glodde@sas.upenn.edu in
> microsoft.public.win2000.security on 9/22/2006,after much thought,came
> up with this jewel:
>
> > I recently upgraded my computer from Win98 to Win2K. Afterwards,
> > Win2K and Win98 were on the same partition. I installed Service Pack
> > 4, then all other security updates, then IE 6 SP1. Now I have this
> > problem: Windows keeps telling me that there is one security update
> > ready to install: "Security Update for Microsoft Data Access
> > Components (KB832483)" When I click on the update icon in the task
> > bar and click to install it, I get the message that the update was
> > installed successfully. However, a couple of minutes later, the same
> > update message pops up again in the task bar. Repeating the
> > installation doesn't help - it always keeps popping up. Any idea
> > what causes this and how I can get rid of the problem? How do I know
> > if the update is installed or not?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Martin
>
> Try this
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=3DF5F605-EA6F
> -4 A98-BC1C-A76BC006859B&displaylang=en
>
> max

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Martin Glodde
09-25-2006, 03:26 AM
Thanks.

Karl Levinson, mvp wrote:
> "Martin Glodde" <glodde@sas.upenn.edu> wrote in message
> news:4ni3qcFa7j0aU1@individual.net...
>> Now I have this problem: Windows keeps telling me that there is one
>> security update ready to install:
>> "Security Update for Microsoft Data Access Components (KB832483)"
>> When I click on the update icon in the task bar and click to install it, I
>> get the message that the update was installed successfully. However, a
>> couple of minutes later, the same update message pops up again in the task
>> bar.

> I recommend going to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com to check for
> updates. This will usually either install the update and get rid of the
> problem, or give you more verbose information as to whether the update
> failed to install, and why.
This doesn't help.

> If that fails, I would try manually downloading the patch .EXE file and
> running that, for the same reasons as above. You might do that first.
I only found the 64 Bit version of KB832483 and can't install it. If I
download the 32 Bit version, I get the message that a newer version is
already installed.

> If none of this helps, you can also run the EVENTVWR command [e.g. by
> clicking Start, Run] to look for errors in the Windows System or Application
> Event Logs,
Nothing related to my problem here - everything appeared to be fine.

> and check out the %windir%\windowsupdate.log file.
I can find this error message after attempting to install the update:
"WARNING: Failed to evaluate Installed rule, updateId =
{C735DBB1-06B4-49F2-815F-97976B4B86A4}.100, error = 0x80041017"

or, at another time:
"WARNING: Update Service: Failed to update backup store"

How do I go ahead from here?
Thanks,
Martin

Martin Glodde
09-25-2006, 03:27 AM
What's in a Name? wrote:

> Try this
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=3DF5F605-EA6F-4
> A98-BC1C-A76BC006859B&displaylang=en

This doesn't fix my problem.

Martin

What's in a Name?
09-25-2006, 04:03 AM
Martin Glodde AKA glodde@sas.upenn.edu in
microsoft.public.win2000.security on 9/24/2006,after much thought,came
up with this jewel:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=3DF5F605-EA6F-4
A98-BC1C-A76BC006859B&displaylang=en
>
> This doesn't fix my problem.
>
> Martin

I was having the same issue as you. Install of
Windows2000-KB922582-x86-ENU.EXE
fixed the problem (those other links were not correct)
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Martin Glodde
09-25-2006, 11:49 AM
What's in a Name? wrote:

> Martin
>
> I was having the same issue as you. Install of
> Windows2000-KB922582-x86-ENU.EXE
> fixed the problem (those other links were not correct)
> max

This didn't help either.

Martin

karl levinson, mvp
09-25-2006, 02:07 PM
"Martin Glodde" <glodde@sas.upenn.edu> wrote in message
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> What's in a Name? wrote:
>
>> Martin
>>
>> I was having the same issue as you. Install of
>> Windows2000-KB922582-x86-ENU.EXE
>> fixed the problem (those other links were not correct)
>> max
>
> This didn't help either.

Yes, but what happens when you install it? What's the word for word error
message?

Martin Glodde
09-25-2006, 02:20 PM
karl levinson, mvp wrote:
> "Martin Glodde" <glodde@sas.upenn.edu> wrote in message
> news:4npqibFbao2uU1@individual.net...
>> What's in a Name? wrote:
>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> I was having the same issue as you. Install of
>>> Windows2000-KB922582-x86-ENU.EXE
>>> fixed the problem (those other links were not correct)
>>> max
>> This didn't help either.
>
> Yes, but what happens when you install it? What's the word for word error
> message?
>
>
"done"
"You have successfully updated your computer" ----> Close
2 min later: "Updates are ready for your computer. Click here to install"

In other words: no error message and I get the message that the update
was installed, but the update reminder pops ups indefinitely and wants
to install it again.

Martin

Roger Abell [MVP]
09-25-2006, 04:24 PM
If you go to
http://msdn.microsoft.com/data/ref/mdac/downloads/
and get the MDAC version checker, what is it seeing ??
The update you are dealing with is very old (approx Jan 04)
Also, the history of your machine stretches back to the pre-MDAC
times when ODBC support was all too often getting cross-versioned.

On the page (above link) you will see a direct link to your problem
child patch, but also notice the link to MDAC 2.8 SP1 which does
supercede your patch (which applied to 2.8 gold).
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=78cac895-efc2-4f8e-a9e0-3a1afbd5922e&displaylang=en

I would grab 2.8 SP 1 (which does install for W2k and Win98) and
also get the version checker. After installing 2.8 Sp1 then I would
rerun the version checker to make sure it is seeing only 2.8 SP 1

If after that autoupdate is still saying as it does now, then there is
likely a corruption in your wuau catalog. For that you should post
into the update newsgroup.
see
http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/support.aspx?ln=en-us
or go to microsoft.public.windowsupdate newsgroup

Roger


"Martin Glodde" <glodde@sas.upenn.edu> wrote in message
news:4ni3qcFa7j0aU1@individual.net...
>I recently upgraded my computer from Win98 to Win2K. Afterwards, Win2K and
>Win98 were on the same partition. I installed Service Pack 4, then all
>other security updates, then IE 6 SP1.
> Now I have this problem: Windows keeps telling me that there is one
> security update ready to install:
> "Security Update for Microsoft Data Access Components (KB832483)"
> When I click on the update icon in the task bar and click to install it, I
> get the message that the update was installed successfully. However, a
> couple of minutes later, the same update message pops up again in the task
> bar. Repeating the installation doesn't help - it always keeps popping up.
> Any idea what causes this and how I can get rid of the problem? How do I
> know if the update is installed or not?
>
> Thanks,
> Martin

Martin Glodde
09-28-2006, 01:41 PM
Roger Abell [MVP] wrote:
> If you go to
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/data/ref/mdac/downloads/
> and get the MDAC version checker, what is it seeing ??
I got the "CompChecker" and under FileDetails, it displays a whole list
of MDACs: MDAC 2.1 SP2, MDAC 2.5 SP3, MDAC 2.7 REFRESH, MDAC 2.7 RTM,
MDAC 2.7 SP1, MDAC 2.7 SP1 REFRESH, MDAC 2.8 RTM, MDAC 2.8 SP1 ON
Windows XP SP2, MDAC 2.8 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 SP1. Then, also
under File Details, it lists Multiple and Unknown.

> The update you are dealing with is very old (approx Jan 04)
> Also, the history of your machine stretches back to the pre-MDAC
> times when ODBC support was all too often getting cross-versioned.
As I originally mentioned, I had Win98 before on the computer and
installed Win2K from the installation CD. Then, I downloaded and
installed SP4 and all updates.

> On the page (above link) you will see a direct link to your problem
> child patch,
Where? I only see a link to the problem under Windows *XP*.

> but also notice the link to MDAC 2.8 SP1 which does
> supercede your patch (which applied to 2.8 gold).
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=78cac895-efc2-4f8e-a9e0-3a1afbd5922e&displaylang=en
>
> I would grab 2.8 SP 1 (which does install for W2k and Win98) and
> also get the version checker. After installing 2.8 Sp1 then I would
> rerun the version checker to make sure it is seeing only 2.8 SP 1
This did the job. I installed MDAC 2.8 SP1, and since then, the computer
doesn't want to install the update anymore. However, the version checker
displays just what I saw before ... unless I looked at the wrong place
in the long list of shown entries.

> If after that autoupdate is still saying as it does now, then there is
> likely a corruption in your wuau catalog. For that you should post
> into the update newsgroup.
> see
> http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/support.aspx?ln=en-us
> or go to microsoft.public.windowsupdate newsgroup
>
> Roger

Many Thanks!
Martin

>
>
> "Martin Glodde" <glodde@sas.upenn.edu> wrote in message
> news:4ni3qcFa7j0aU1@individual.net...
>> I recently upgraded my computer from Win98 to Win2K. Afterwards, Win2K and
>> Win98 were on the same partition. I installed Service Pack 4, then all
>> other security updates, then IE 6 SP1.
>> Now I have this problem: Windows keeps telling me that there is one
>> security update ready to install:
>> "Security Update for Microsoft Data Access Components (KB832483)"
>> When I click on the update icon in the task bar and click to install it, I
>> get the message that the update was installed successfully. However, a
>> couple of minutes later, the same update message pops up again in the task
>> bar. Repeating the installation doesn't help - it always keeps popping up.
>> Any idea what causes this and how I can get rid of the problem? How do I
>> know if the update is installed or not?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Martin
>
>

Roger Abell [MVP]
09-28-2006, 02:45 PM
"Martin Glodde" <glodde@sas.upenn.edu> wrote in message
news:451BC304.8000904@sas.upenn.edu...
> Roger Abell [MVP] wrote:
>> If you go to
>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/data/ref/mdac/downloads/
>> and get the MDAC version checker, what is it seeing ??
> I got the "CompChecker" and under FileDetails, it displays a whole list
> of MDACs: MDAC 2.1 SP2, MDAC 2.5 SP3, MDAC 2.7 REFRESH, MDAC 2.7 RTM,
> MDAC 2.7 SP1, MDAC 2.7 SP1 REFRESH, MDAC 2.8 RTM, MDAC 2.8 SP1 ON
> Windows XP SP2, MDAC 2.8 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 SP1. Then, also
> under File Details, it lists Multiple and Unknown.
>
>> The update you are dealing with is very old (approx Jan 04)
>> Also, the history of your machine stretches back to the pre-MDAC
>> times when ODBC support was all too often getting cross-versioned.
> As I originally mentioned, I had Win98 before on the computer and
> installed Win2K from the installation CD. Then, I downloaded and
> installed SP4 and all updates.
>
yes, hence I said "the history of your machine"

>> On the page (above link) you will see a direct link to your problem
>> child patch,
> Where? I only see a link to the problem under Windows *XP*.
>
I may have overlooked that aspect, but I was mostly there to
find the next link for 2.8 sp1 for you

>> but also notice the link to MDAC 2.8 SP1 which does
>> supercede your patch (which applied to 2.8 gold).
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=78cac895-efc2-4f8e-a9e0-3a1afbd5922e&displaylang=en
>>
>> I would grab 2.8 SP 1 (which does install for W2k and Win98) and
>> also get the version checker. After installing 2.8 Sp1 then I would
>> rerun the version checker to make sure it is seeing only 2.8 SP 1
> This did the job. I installed MDAC 2.8 SP1, and since then, the computer
> doesn't want to install the update anymore. However, the version checker
> displays just what I saw before ... unless I looked at the wrong place in
> the long list of shown entries.
>
You have to have it do the check again.
It may be seeing some residual files that are not being removed,
but the 2.8 sp1 install should have made the active versions on
the components consistent and current.

>> If after that autoupdate is still saying as it does now, then there is
>> likely a corruption in your wuau catalog. For that you should post
>> into the update newsgroup.
>> see
>> http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/support.aspx?ln=en-us
>> or go to microsoft.public.windowsupdate newsgroup
>>
>> Roger
>
> Many Thanks!

No problem. Sorry I was not more explicit with my first post
that this was the route to resolution I was recommending.

>>
>>
>> "Martin Glodde" <glodde@sas.upenn.edu> wrote in message
>> news:4ni3qcFa7j0aU1@individual.net...
>>> I recently upgraded my computer from Win98 to Win2K. Afterwards, Win2K
>>> and Win98 were on the same partition. I installed Service Pack 4, then
>>> all other security updates, then IE 6 SP1.
>>> Now I have this problem: Windows keeps telling me that there is one
>>> security update ready to install:
>>> "Security Update for Microsoft Data Access Components (KB832483)"
>>> When I click on the update icon in the task bar and click to install it,
>>> I get the message that the update was installed successfully. However, a
>>> couple of minutes later, the same update message pops up again in the
>>> task bar. Repeating the installation doesn't help - it always keeps
>>> popping up.
>>> Any idea what causes this and how I can get rid of the problem? How do I
>>> know if the update is installed or not?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Martin
>>
>>
>