Alvin:
Can you please give a brief overview of how Office 2007 and Excell services
fits in with those users currently using the OWC 11 controls. Is there an OWC
12? Now that the Beta is available a little insight would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks
Jeff Moore

> 12? Now that the Beta is available a little insight would be greatly
> appreciated.
Where is this available? I've been trying to get my hands on this for a
couple months now and they wouldn't even let me have it. I was told that
beta and pre-betas are only available to Office MVP's (I'm not an Office
MVP) so my guess is as good as yours where that is concerned. However, as
soon as I get my hands on the beta, I intend to hammer it.

--

________________________
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[Shameless Author plug]
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"Jeff Moore" <JeffMoore@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7F49427D-5A06-4C8C-A320-5B8474C78B69@microsoft.com...
> Alvin:
> Can you please give a brief overview of how Office 2007 and Excell
> services
> fits in with those users currently using the OWC 11 controls. Is there an
> OWC
> 12? Now that the Beta is available a little insight would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Jeff Moore

Alvin,

I would like to get may hands on this also,
Is it Available via MSDN-Universal Subscription?
Does office 12+ open up the API to PDF conversion?

I need it now.

Sa


"Alvin Bruney" <www.lulu.com/owc> wrote in message
news:%23Wjjvk3fGHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> 12? Now that the Beta is available a little insight would be greatly
>> appreciated.
> Where is this available? I've been trying to get my hands on this for a
> couple months now and they wouldn't even let me have it. I was told that
> beta and pre-betas are only available to Office MVP's (I'm not an Office
> MVP) so my guess is as good as yours where that is concerned. However, as
> soon as I get my hands on the beta, I intend to hammer it.
>
> --
>
> ________________________
> Warm regards,
> Alvin Bruney [MVP ASP.NET]
>
> [Shameless Author plug]
> Professional VSTO.NET - Wrox/Wiley
> The O.W.C. Black Book with .NET
> www.lulu.com/owc, Amazon
> Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/blogs/alvin
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Jeff Moore" <JeffMoore@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7F49427D-5A06-4C8C-A320-5B8474C78B69@microsoft.com...
>> Alvin:
>> Can you please give a brief overview of how Office 2007 and Excell
>> services
>> fits in with those users currently using the OWC 11 controls. Is there an
>> OWC
>> 12? Now that the Beta is available a little insight would be greatly
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jeff Moore
>
>

http://www.microsoft.com/office/preview/default.mspx


--

________________________
Warm regards,
Alvin Bruney [MVP ASP.NET]

[Shameless Author plug]
Professional VSTO.NET - Wrox/Wiley
The O.W.C. Black Book with .NET
www.lulu.com/owc, Amazon
Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/blogs/alvin
-------------------------------------------------------

"msdn" <sql_agentman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O9HNXp5fGHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Alvin,
>
> I would like to get may hands on this also,
> Is it Available via MSDN-Universal Subscription?
> Does office 12+ open up the API to PDF conversion?
>
> I need it now.
>
> Sa
>
>
> "Alvin Bruney" <www.lulu.com/owc> wrote in message
> news:%23Wjjvk3fGHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> 12? Now that the Beta is available a little insight would be greatly
>>> appreciated.
>> Where is this available? I've been trying to get my hands on this for a
>> couple months now and they wouldn't even let me have it. I was told that
>> beta and pre-betas are only available to Office MVP's (I'm not an Office
>> MVP) so my guess is as good as yours where that is concerned. However, as
>> soon as I get my hands on the beta, I intend to hammer it.
>>
>> --
>>
>> ________________________
>> Warm regards,
>> Alvin Bruney [MVP ASP.NET]
>>
>> [Shameless Author plug]
>> Professional VSTO.NET - Wrox/Wiley
>> The O.W.C. Black Book with .NET
>> www.lulu.com/owc, Amazon
>> Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/blogs/alvin
>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "Jeff Moore" <JeffMoore@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:7F49427D-5A06-4C8C-A320-5B8474C78B69@microsoft.com...
>>> Alvin:
>>> Can you please give a brief overview of how Office 2007 and Excell
>>> services
>>> fits in with those users currently using the OWC 11 controls. Is there
>>> an OWC
>>> 12? Now that the Beta is available a little insight would be greatly
>>> appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Jeff Moore
>>
>>
>
>

Thanks Alvin,

Sa


"Alvin Bruney" <www.lulu.com/owc> wrote in message
news:OBmSxd$fGHA.1272@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> http://www.microsoft.com/office/preview/default.mspx
>
>
> --
>
> ________________________
> Warm regards,
> Alvin Bruney [MVP ASP.NET]
>
> [Shameless Author plug]
> Professional VSTO.NET - Wrox/Wiley
> The O.W.C. Black Book with .NET
> www.lulu.com/owc, Amazon
> Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/blogs/alvin
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> "msdn" <sql_agentman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O9HNXp5fGHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Alvin,
>>
>> I would like to get may hands on this also,
>> Is it Available via MSDN-Universal Subscription?
>> Does office 12+ open up the API to PDF conversion?
>>
>> I need it now.
>>
>> Sa
>>
>>
>> "Alvin Bruney" <www.lulu.com/owc> wrote in message
>> news:%23Wjjvk3fGHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> 12? Now that the Beta is available a little insight would be greatly
>>>> appreciated.
>>> Where is this available? I've been trying to get my hands on this for a
>>> couple months now and they wouldn't even let me have it. I was told that
>>> beta and pre-betas are only available to Office MVP's (I'm not an Office
>>> MVP) so my guess is as good as yours where that is concerned. However,
>>> as soon as I get my hands on the beta, I intend to hammer it.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> ________________________
>>> Warm regards,
>>> Alvin Bruney [MVP ASP.NET]
>>>
>>> [Shameless Author plug]
>>> Professional VSTO.NET - Wrox/Wiley
>>> The O.W.C. Black Book with .NET
>>> www.lulu.com/owc, Amazon
>>> Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/blogs/alvin
>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> "Jeff Moore" <JeffMoore@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:7F49427D-5A06-4C8C-A320-5B8474C78B69@microsoft.com...
>>>> Alvin:
>>>> Can you please give a brief overview of how Office 2007 and Excell
>>>> services
>>>> fits in with those users currently using the OWC 11 controls. Is there
>>>> an OWC
>>>> 12? Now that the Beta is available a little insight would be greatly
>>>> appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Jeff Moore
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

For once I know something!!

http://www.microsoft.com/office/preview/beta/download/en/default.mspx

There is more info on Sharepoint 2007 and how excell services comes into
play on the Office site. As you know there are many issues with the OWC 11. I
am very curios as to wether the 2007 versions solve many of these. IE7 Beta 2
is pretty cool also. I highly recommend it.

Best Regards
Jeff





"msdn" wrote:

> Alvin,
>
> I would like to get may hands on this also,
> Is it Available via MSDN-Universal Subscription?
> Does office 12+ open up the API to PDF conversion?
>
> I need it now.
>
> Sa
>
>
> "Alvin Bruney" <www.lulu.com/owc> wrote in message
> news:%23Wjjvk3fGHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> 12? Now that the Beta is available a little insight would be greatly
> >> appreciated.
> > Where is this available? I've been trying to get my hands on this for a
> > couple months now and they wouldn't even let me have it. I was told that
> > beta and pre-betas are only available to Office MVP's (I'm not an Office
> > MVP) so my guess is as good as yours where that is concerned. However, as
> > soon as I get my hands on the beta, I intend to hammer it.
> >
> > --
> >
> > ________________________
> > Warm regards,
> > Alvin Bruney [MVP ASP.NET]
> >
> > [Shameless Author plug]
> > Professional VSTO.NET - Wrox/Wiley
> > The O.W.C. Black Book with .NET
> > www.lulu.com/owc, Amazon
> > Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/blogs/alvin
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > "Jeff Moore" <JeffMoore@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:7F49427D-5A06-4C8C-A320-5B8474C78B69@microsoft.com...
> >> Alvin:
> >> Can you please give a brief overview of how Office 2007 and Excell
> >> services
> >> fits in with those users currently using the OWC 11 controls. Is there an
> >> OWC
> >> 12? Now that the Beta is available a little insight would be greatly
> >> appreciated.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Jeff Moore
> >
> >
>
>
>

IE7 Beta 2
> is pretty cool also. I highly recommend it.
Yup, i've been on the beta for a couple months now. It's been very good
though it pales in features compared to firefox.

There doesn't seem to be a standalone OWC in there. I have to do some more
digging around into share point to see what's up.

--

________________________
Warm regards,
Alvin Bruney [MVP ASP.NET]

[Shameless Author plug]
Professional VSTO.NET - Wrox/Wiley
The O.W.C. Black Book with .NET
www.lulu.com/owc, Amazon
Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/blogs/alvin
-------------------------------------------------------

"Jeff Moore" <JeffMoore@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:741F6C0B-44D2-41BE-9F93-BE4600ADB396@microsoft.com...
> For once I know something!!
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/office/preview/beta/download/en/default.mspx
>
> There is more info on Sharepoint 2007 and how excell services comes into
> play on the Office site. As you know there are many issues with the OWC
> 11. I
> am very curios as to wether the 2007 versions solve many of these. IE7
> Beta 2
> is pretty cool also. I highly recommend it.
>
> Best Regards
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
>
> "msdn" wrote:
>
>> Alvin,
>>
>> I would like to get may hands on this also,
>> Is it Available via MSDN-Universal Subscription?
>> Does office 12+ open up the API to PDF conversion?
>>
>> I need it now.
>>
>> Sa
>>
>>
>> "Alvin Bruney" <www.lulu.com/owc> wrote in message
>> news:%23Wjjvk3fGHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> 12? Now that the Beta is available a little insight would be greatly
>> >> appreciated.
>> > Where is this available? I've been trying to get my hands on this for a
>> > couple months now and they wouldn't even let me have it. I was told
>> > that
>> > beta and pre-betas are only available to Office MVP's (I'm not an
>> > Office
>> > MVP) so my guess is as good as yours where that is concerned. However,
>> > as
>> > soon as I get my hands on the beta, I intend to hammer it.
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > ________________________
>> > Warm regards,
>> > Alvin Bruney [MVP ASP.NET]
>> >
>> > [Shameless Author plug]
>> > Professional VSTO.NET - Wrox/Wiley
>> > The O.W.C. Black Book with .NET
>> > www.lulu.com/owc, Amazon
>> > Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/blogs/alvin
>> > -------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > "Jeff Moore" <JeffMoore@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:7F49427D-5A06-4C8C-A320-5B8474C78B69@microsoft.com...
>> >> Alvin:
>> >> Can you please give a brief overview of how Office 2007 and Excell
>> >> services
>> >> fits in with those users currently using the OWC 11 controls. Is there
>> >> an
>> >> OWC
>> >> 12? Now that the Beta is available a little insight would be greatly
>> >> appreciated.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >> Jeff Moore
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>

> Can you please give a brief overview of how Office 2007 and Excell
> services
> fits in with those users currently using the OWC 11 controls. Is there an
> OWC
> 12? Now that the Beta is available a little insight would be greatly
> appreciated.

From what I gather, the OWC as we know it today has morphed into a set of
services that exposes the same functionality in an SOA-type architecture.
The front-end, spreadsheet, chart etc, sit inside web-parts that provide
full interactivity. The back end is powered by the Excel services. It
provides robust, scalable access to Excel's calculation engine and charting
infrastructure.

In a nutshell, the functionality that we have grown accustom to is still
there, but the way in which it is exposed is markedly different in a way
that would allow applications to scale correctly especially high user
applications. I'm trying to fire up some working examples but I don't have
it working just yet.

--

________________________
Warm regards,
Alvin Bruney [MVP ASP.NET]

[Shameless Author plug]
Professional VSTO.NET - Wrox/Wiley
The O.W.C. Black Book with .NET
www.lulu.com/owc, Amazon
Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/blogs/alvin
-------------------------------------------------------

"Jeff Moore" <JeffMoore@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7F49427D-5A06-4C8C-A320-5B8474C78B69@microsoft.com...
> Alvin:
> Can you please give a brief overview of how Office 2007 and Excell
> services
> fits in with those users currently using the OWC 11 controls. Is there an
> OWC
> 12? Now that the Beta is available a little insight would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Jeff Moore

Alvin:
Thank you for the response. In your testing will you be testing in
Sharepoint 2007? This is another area of question as in the past Sharepoint
services was included at no cost with Windows 2003 server. There is mention
of Sharepoint Services 2007 on the Microsoft pages but not a seperate
download. We are currently using Sharepoint Services, BI Portal and OWC 11 in
straight HTML and in Webparts. The problem with the webpart environment for
me is the difficulty to add the VBSCRIPT to fix some of the problems with the
OWC11 such as Drilldown Series coloration retention, Series color assignment,
etc.
I just wanted to suggest that your sample testing reflect a likely
deployment such as what we are currently doing as described above.

Thanks Again
Jeff

"Alvin Bruney" wrote:

> > Can you please give a brief overview of how Office 2007 and Excell
> > services
> > fits in with those users currently using the OWC 11 controls. Is there an
> > OWC
> > 12? Now that the Beta is available a little insight would be greatly
> > appreciated.
>
> From what I gather, the OWC as we know it today has morphed into a set of
> services that exposes the same functionality in an SOA-type architecture.
> The front-end, spreadsheet, chart etc, sit inside web-parts that provide
> full interactivity. The back end is powered by the Excel services. It
> provides robust, scalable access to Excel's calculation engine and charting
> infrastructure.
>
> In a nutshell, the functionality that we have grown accustom to is still
> there, but the way in which it is exposed is markedly different in a way
> that would allow applications to scale correctly especially high user
> applications. I'm trying to fire up some working examples but I don't have
> it working just yet.
>
> --
>
> ________________________
> Warm regards,
> Alvin Bruney [MVP ASP.NET]
>
> [Shameless Author plug]
> Professional VSTO.NET - Wrox/Wiley
> The O.W.C. Black Book with .NET
> www.lulu.com/owc, Amazon
> Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/blogs/alvin
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Jeff Moore" <JeffMoore@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7F49427D-5A06-4C8C-A320-5B8474C78B69@microsoft.com...
> > Alvin:
> > Can you please give a brief overview of how Office 2007 and Excell
> > services
> > fits in with those users currently using the OWC 11 controls. Is there an
> > OWC
> > 12? Now that the Beta is available a little insight would be greatly
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Jeff Moore
>
>
>