I am just learning, and am confused on this issue. When assigning
permissions, there are the Allow and Deny checkboxes. I understand if
I choose deny that overrides everything, but is leaving both Allow and
Deny the same as applying Deny? If not, could someone please explain
the difference to me?

Thanks, Kurt

Don't know why you would want to do that but a deny always overrides an
allow, except that an explicit allow overrides and inherited deny. Inherited
permissions are grayed out. --- Steve


"Kurt" wrote in message
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> I am just learning, and am confused on this issue. When assigning
> permissions, there are the Allow and Deny checkboxes. I understand if
> I choose deny that overrides everything, but is leaving both Allow and
> Deny the same as applying Deny? If not, could someone please explain
> the difference to me?
>
> Thanks, Kurt

Hey Kurt,

Yes, you are on the right track. When there is a conflict
between the NTFS permissions then the "least restrictive"
permissions take effect. But since Deny is an exception to
the rule, It overrides any other permission. So in case
you select Everyone Full control- Allow and Everyone Full
Control - Deny(It shouldnt allow you to actually :-)) )
Deny overrides all other permissions.

Cheers
Vijay Rathee
MCT
>-----Original Message-----
>I am just learning, and am confused on this issue. When
assigning
>permissions, there are the Allow and Deny checkboxes. I
understand if
>I choose deny that overrides everything, but is leaving
both Allow and
>Deny the same as applying Deny? If not, could someone
please explain
>the difference to me?
>
>Thanks, Kurt
>.
>

Should read:

I understand if I choose deny that overrides everything, but is
leaving both Allow and Deny BLANK the same as applying Deny?

Sorry about that error!

Kurt

On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 21:48:30 GMT, Kurt wrote:

>I am just learning, and am confused on this issue. When assigning
>permissions, there are the Allow and Deny checkboxes. I understand if
>I choose deny that overrides everything, but is leaving both Allow and
>Deny the same as applying Deny? If not, could someone please explain
>the difference to me?
>
>Thanks, Kurt

I am not sure the OS will allow that, but no permissions is an implicit deny
permission. If you ever see that always check the advanced permission
properties where there may be permissions for the user/group. --- Steve

"Kurt" wrote in message
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> Should read:
>
> I understand if I choose deny that overrides everything, but is
> leaving both Allow and Deny BLANK the same as applying Deny?
>
> Sorry about that error!
>
> Kurt
>
> On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 21:48:30 GMT, Kurt wrote:
>
> >I am just learning, and am confused on this issue. When assigning
> >permissions, there are the Allow and Deny checkboxes. I understand if
> >I choose deny that overrides everything, but is leaving both Allow and
> >Deny the same as applying Deny? If not, could someone please explain
> >the difference to me?
> >
> >Thanks, Kurt
>

Keep in mind than an explicit allow will override an inherited deny, and it
is possible to configure permissions that way where the inherited deny box
will be checked and grayed and you can still check allow. --- Steve

"Vj" wrote in message
news:0a9701c3a437$f4085850$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> Hey Kurt,
>
> Yes, you are on the right track. When there is a conflict
> between the NTFS permissions then the "least restrictive"
> permissions take effect. But since Deny is an exception to
> the rule, It overrides any other permission. So in case
> you select Everyone Full control- Allow and Everyone Full
> Control - Deny(It shouldnt allow you to actually :-)) )
> Deny overrides all other permissions.
>
> Cheers
> Vijay Rathee
> MCT
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I am just learning, and am confused on this issue. When
> assigning
> >permissions, there are the Allow and Deny checkboxes. I
> understand if
> >I choose deny that overrides everything, but is leaving
> both Allow and
> >Deny the same as applying Deny? If not, could someone
> please explain
> >the difference to me?
> >
> >Thanks, Kurt
> >.
> >

Thanks for the help!

On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 14:12:33 GMT, "Steven L Umbach"
wrote:

>I am not sure the OS will allow that, but no permissions is an implicit deny
>permission. If you ever see that always check the advanced permission
>properties where there may be permissions for the user/group. --- Steve
>
>"Kurt" wrote in message
>news:3i0kqvsjldvongcro6ii0ii4tujg44n4h2@4ax.com...
>> Should read:
>>
>> I understand if I choose deny that overrides everything, but is
>> leaving both Allow and Deny BLANK the same as applying Deny?
>>
>> Sorry about that error!
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 21:48:30 GMT, Kurt wrote:
>>
>> >I am just learning, and am confused on this issue. When assigning
>> >permissions, there are the Allow and Deny checkboxes. I understand if
>> >I choose deny that overrides everything, but is leaving both Allow and
>> >Deny the same as applying Deny? If not, could someone please explain
>> >the difference to me?
>> >
>> >Thanks, Kurt
>>
>